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Arash
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Blev medlem: 09 nov 2014, 22:03

Romania to residency in Sweden

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Hello, I just finished University of Medicine and Pharmacy in Cluj-Napoca, Romania (my license is in general medicine) and I want to register for residency in Sweden. I have to mention that I am a non-UE citizen with a member of family from EU countries (my wife is romanian). What I have to do in this situation? How I can register for the residency in Sweden, what documents I need, what are the steps that I should follow? Once entered in Sweden is a little difficult for me to go back Romania for every document that I need, so I would be grateful if you could help me with as many details as you can about this subject.
Thank you very much!
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Nils
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Blev medlem: 22 apr 2008, 23:52

Romania to residency in Sweden

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Have you read this list?
http://läkarstudent.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2259

For more specific and comprehensive information for your personal situation, I would recommend contacting the Swedish Medical Association:
https://www.slf.se/Info-in-English/From-EUEEA-country/
aliahmed

Romania to medical residency in Sweden

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Hello,Sorry for any disturbance..
i am medical graduate,did my studies in Romania,want to do post graduation(specialist medical training-ST) in Sweden.
I want to ask you that after getting license and learning language is it easy/hard or more competitive to enter into specialization.
Which county/city of Sweden has more shortage for ST position.
For the candidate having EU diploma is it necessary for him to do AT training OR
He can directly join ST after getting license and learning language.
Thanks a lot.
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Nils
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Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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The residencies at the university hospitals are quite competitive, especially in the major urban areas of Sweden. More "peripheral" hospitals would probably be easier to get a residency at.

If you get the Swedish medical license through the EU license recognition mechanism (apply to Socialstyrelsen), get a permit to live in Sweden and learn the Swedish language, there should not be any formal obstacle to entering an ST / residency.

(This is assuming that you are a citizen of any EU country.)
aliahmed

Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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Thanks for the response.
i think that in northern cities of Sweden it will be easier to find residency post (ST),,so please can you recommend me any county/city of Sweden where job prospects will be bright,,by job i mean ST training.
one more thing i heard that some hospitals can arrange language course for upcoming doctors so do you have any information regarding this.
During residency(ST) does the supervisor or specialist doctor expects young doctor to know lots of things ,,i am asking this because i studied in Eastern europe so my practical skills are not that good..so is it a concern what do you think?
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Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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Västerbotten cities may be difficult since Västerbotten has one of the highest physician concentrations in the country. Norrbotten, Västernorrland and Jämtland cities may be much easier in comparison.

Unfortunately, I do not know much about Swedish language courses for physicians. The Swedish Medical Association (Läkarförbundet, slf.se) should know more about it.

Physicians coming from abroad are not expected to already know the routines in Swedish healthcare. It is also well known in Sweden that many international medical educations put a greater emphasis on theoretical knowledge, while the Swedish medical education emphasises clinical experience to a greater degree, so the supervisor should be aware of the possibility for such differences.
aliahmed

Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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Thanks a lot for the response.
How long does it takes to learn Swedish language upto the required level which will enable me to communicate with the patients? i know it depends upon each individual but still do you have any idea e.g if i start taking classes in FOLKUNIVERSITAT.
Suppose it takes around 10 months to learn the language,, then after these 10 months when i apply for ST training then is there a chance that hospital can not hire me on the basis that i was away from my medical profession from last 10 months,,was not involved in any practical work because i was just studying language .
Thanks.
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Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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If you manage to achieve a CEFR Levl C1 in, no matter the time, you stand a good chance of getting hired somewhere.
For more info on the language level, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Eu ... _Languages

I have never seen any announced position as a physician demanding less than Level B2. The time you spent "away" from medicine won't really matter that much, unless it's many many years. A lot of hospitals already have experience of international medical graduates/physicians coming to Sweden and having to take some time away from medicine in order to learn the language properly. Thus, they will understand why you haven't had the time to gained that much clinical experience.

There is also the possibility to do some none-paid shadowing (called askultation or praktik, and is usualy arranges through Arbetsförmedlingen) at a hosptial in the county you are interested in. It is also a great way to make yourself known at a future workplace.
ali ahmed

Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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Thanks for the reply.
Please can you tell me that which speciality is more in demand other than psychiatry and family medicine in Sweden.
What about ST training in Radiology Or dermatology (is it difficult to get into these specialities?
Thanks.
visitor

Romania - specialist medical training in Sweden

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Radiology
The announced positions I've seen have all demanded at least level C1 proficiency. Nota bene, that radiology is probably one of the specialitys where language skills matter most - accuracy and nuances in questions and answers makes a whole lot of difference here. Thus, native speakers will likely have an advantege (probably valid for every field you're interested in). You should be able to compensate this with awesome language skills and a "killer CV", i.e. work experice and/or research within the radiology/clinical physiology/clinical imaging/ field.

Dermatology
Probably not as picky in therms of language qualifictions, but as above, I'v never seen any announced positions demanding less than level C1 proficiency. Relevant experiece, i.e. working within derm/internal medicine/infectious disease/pathology/reumathology before applying for an ST-postion, will benefit your application. Working at a more "rural" hospital (where there's a derm department) would increase your chanses by getting known at the hospital as a likeable person, as well as decrese the number of competitors due to the location.
While derm is not as competetive in Sweden as in the US, the number of ST-spots aren't that many.
For comparisson, there are over a 1000 registered specialists in radiology (Klinisk radioloi + Bild- och funktionsmedicin) in Sweden , but only 360 in dermatology. These numbers can also be compared to the over 5400 general practitioners (ergistered specialists in Allmänmedicin).
https://www.slf.se/upload/Lakarforbunde ... a_2014.pdf


Regarding difficulty, even for Swedish doctors it is common to work between AT and ST. The time depends on (1) the popularity of the speciality they're interested in and (2) the number of spots. The more popular the field and/or the fewer the spots the longer those interested have to "wait", i.e. gain more experience.
Eventually you'll gain so much experience that the speciality you're interested in won't "be abel to" say no. Thus, given enough time, you can do whatever speciality you want. It just might take 1+ years.
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